This is part of an interview of a third witness who recalls some of what happened at Dillon Lake in Colorado in 1975. There are four witnesses out of six who recall the UFO activity, and three of us validate some of each others accounts…enough to convince us that what we recall is true and accurate. This is Karen, our youngest daughter, who recalls a part of an out-of-body experience that she, her brother and I shared. I can validate most of what she has said. Because we both recall floating out over the water, indicating we indeed were out-of-body, this solidly supports the idea that there is indeed a “spiritual body” that most likely survives after we die. Karen and I recalling the voice speaking to us while we were out-of-body indicates there is indeed other, what we would call, “spiritual entities” on the “other side.” My narration of the 1975 family Dillon Lake UFO encounter is in Chapter Six of the book Eminent Discovery, which you can find at the bottom of this home page.
“Let’s see. What I remember is – my first fleeting thought was a vision of dad’s face, with a pail light shining on his face, standing by the side of the lake. And I remember seeing his face. And I remember him telling us, me and my brother, that everything was OK, and not to be worried. And that’s all I remembered for a while. And I also use to dream about the campsite that we were at that time – on that particular trip to Dillon Lake. I use to dream about that campsite all the time. And I remembered feeling really sad, when we left there, that next morning. I remembered sitting there thinking I really hated to leave. And I had sort of a really melancholy feeling when we left. And I always remembered that. But, I really hadn’t thought much about it until later.
And once I started really trying to recall what really went on, I remembered seeing some shapes out in the water. Ah. All I could see was, like, the dark area – no detail I don’t remember. But I remember two shapes. One of them was kind of flat and long. And I do remember seeing something that looked like headlights on the flat long shape. And I remember seeing a tall rectangular type shape. And I remember yelling at my sister to come down and hurry to see what was going on out here, or else she was going to miss it.
And I can’t remember exactly what we were seeing. But then, mom called for supper and we all decided that we had better go. I don’t remember exactly what happened. I remember bits and pieces. I remember my brother and I being out over the water, and I remember us laughing. It was a free-fall feeling. And I remember looking down at the water and I remember the feeling of turning somersaults. You know, airless. And we were having a really good time, my brother and I. And I remember a voice telling us we had to come back. And I remember, maybe like three times in a row, this voice telling us we had to come back. As far as down on the water, that’s about all I remember.
Then later that evening, we were all sitting around a campfire. And I remember scooting over by my mother, because there was – we looked up and there were, like, spotlights shining all over. And we thought the police were looking for somebody or something. And then there were a lot of spotlights all over. And I remember looking up and – I don’t remember any detail about what this light looked like. I can’t remember how many spots there were up there. But there were some spots of lights, up above us. And I looked all around at everyone sitting around the fire and everyone was in the spotlight. It was light; everything was lighted up.
And I remember on down the hill, I don’t remember which direction – I never knew my north, east, west and south, so – it was to the side of the fire where the hill started slopping down. Everybody got up to go over there and look at something. There was something over there. And I remember, real vividly, everyone standing around an object, looking at it and talking about it. And I remember standing close to my mom and staying there. And I remember seeing – I don’t remember a lot about the object, except that it had a door. And it looked kind of like a stagecoach to me. It had two windows, one on each side. And I saw my sister, Kindra, sitting in there, through the window. And it was like a – just a little square shack, building type thing. I don’t remember any other details.
While we were over by the object, thing, I don’t’ remember any lights. I just have a short glimpse – I see Kindy sitting in there. And I see grandpa Glen, very clearly, standing outside of it, looking at it, kind of looking at the front, looking around the side, and kind of inspecting it. And I remember standing close to mom. And I think – somebody was – I think it was Brad who was considering getting in. And somebody was trying to talk him into getting in there. And I don’t remember who. And he didn’t really want in and he didn’t really know for sure of he wanted to. And I don’t remember if he really did. And I can’t remember if I did.
And, I don’t remember color. I have a hard time remembering any specific details, except for everybody’s faces. I remember faces of everybody real well. There may have been some light there, because it was night. But we could see. There must have been light, because I could see every one’s faces. And I could see grandpa, from head to toe.